KIEV Italia tour: 1 dicembre live @ CSA Nextemerson (Firenze)
da http://www.underpass.it/musica-dett.php?musica_ID=29
ROBOTNACHT LIVE!!!!
KiEw
http://www.kiew.org
+ AntiQuark
http://www.antiquark.net
venerdì 30 novembre @ La Scintilla, Via Attiraglio 66 - Modena | http://scintilla.altervista.org
sabato 1 dicembre @ nEXt Emerson, Via di Bellagio - Firenze | http://www.csaexemerson.it
a seguire dopo il concerto: DJ set industrial/electro by Naotodate + Ex-Pornostar DJ
OTK dancefloor surgeons
da http://flyk3r.noblogs.org/post/2007/11/28/otk-dancefloor-surgeons
stasera Venerdi 30 Novembre
CSA Next-Emerson
via di Bellagio 18 - FIRENZE
come arrivare
in auto: prendi la via Sestese, alla prima rotonda zona stazione ferroviaria di Castello svolta a destra; subito dopo il distributore di benzina e l'autolavaggio svolta a sinistra, cento metri e sei arrivato, cancello sulla sinistra.
in bus: linee 2 e 28 chiedi all'autista la fermata piu' vicina all'Istituto Buddista Italiano Soka Gakkai (l'entrata dell'Emerson e' proprio di fronte al cancello dell'istituto).
ingresso 1 €
DNB - HARDTEK - TRIBE FLOOR...
Morph (Dj7 OTK Krew)
Tasker (Dj7 OTK Krew)
Jeki (Dj7 OTK Krew)
Matte (Dj7 OTK Krew Friends)
Dolo (Dj7 SubAddiction)
ELEKTRO - BROKEN BEATS - BREAKBEATS FLOOR....
Kampi Tunez (Weingroo23&Dr.Smooth OTK Krew Live7 & Dj)
Lore (Dj7 OTK Krew)
Tiziano (Megatron Sound Dj)
Allen (Live7 I Hate my Self Prodcution Rec).
Rock dalla Francia: JOHNNY ONEFINGER + PROTON PACKS live @ Ulisse (Firenze)
Sweet Sensation presenta:
stasera martedi' 27 novembre 2007 ore 22.30
JOHNNY ONEFINGER
+ THE PROTON PACKS
dopo il concerto 'VERSO LA FINE' DJ set
@
Ulisse Barnum via di San Salvi 12 Firenze (interno Ex Ospedale Psichiatrico San Salvi)
prossimi live all' Ulisse:
martedi' 4 dicembre
LOVE BOAT (three piece garage pop combo Sardegna)
+
GOLDEN SHOWER
giovedi' 6 dicembre
NUMBER 71 BAND
(Napoli) + FUNNY DUNNY (Avellino) @ Ulisse Barnum
PER ARRIVARE ALL'ULISSE: AUTOBUS LINEE 6 E 20 FERMATA VIA LUNGO L' AFFRICO
xxx
Interstellar Reading List
Una lista di volumi consigliati da Underground Resistance (Detroit)
da http://www.undergroundresistance.com/main/content/view/16/40/
Interstellar Reading List
(an incomplete and growing list, in no particular order)
1. This Business of Music by M. William Krasilovsky and Sidney Shemel - This is the music BUSINESS and any and everyone thinking about getting into this needs to read this book. Even if you find an old edition at a used bookstore, the information will still be accurate enough to put you miles ahead of the average knucklehead!
2. Arrest The Music!: Fela and His Rebel Art and Politics by Tejumola Olaniyan - A profile of one of the most influential musicians in the world. He's the man who said, "Music is a weapon!"
3. To Be Loved: The Music, the Magic, the Memories of Motown by Berry Gordy - For those who don't know, this is the man behind the label that altered the course of the music industry and changed the world. Before techno, before P-Funk, there was Motown.
4. Techno Rebels by Dan Sicko - The primer. Sicko gives an overview of the Detroit techno scene in intimate detail that nobody has been able to match.
5. No No Boy by John Okada - Fictional account of a very real situation. A man comes out of prison after WWII to find his world turned upside down. The cost of resistance in the face of injustice.
6. An Underground Education: The Unauthorized and Outrageous Supplement to Everything You Thought You Knew About Art, Sex, Business, Crime, Science, Medicine, and Other Fields of Human Knowledge by Richard Zacks - The title pretty much sums it up. Hilarious and disturbing, kind of like national politics.
7. An Empire of Their Own How the Jews Invented Hollywood by Neal Gabler - There are so many ways to look at this book, and there are so many parallels to hip hop, techno, and a number of other industries. Fascinating, and inspiring.
8. Down These Mean Streets by Piri Thomas - A Puerto Rican brother gives an unflinching portrait of inner city life and the how screwed up race and ethnicity are in the US.
9. Black Magic: A Pictorial History of the African-American in the Performing Arts by Langston Hughes and Milton Meltzer - Ok, I'm going to have to disagree with the titling of this. This book is about the history of American performing arts, period. So much of "mainstream" entertainment has been borrowed and co-opted from "African American" arts, that the title can be misleading. However, that the people portrayed are black, and that their work was magic, cannot be denied!
10. Sex and Race by J. A. Rogers - This is a 3 volume set, but don't let that deter you. Rogers breaks down a number of racial stereotypes and digs deep into the myth of racial purity, from the "Old World" to the "New World" and explores why interracial mixing is part of the human experience.
xxx
BOOM BOOM and the long sex + NARCOTICS @ Ulisse (Firenze)
Stasera all'Ulisse Barnum in via San Salvi 12, area ex ospedale psichiatrico (zona cavalcavia di piazza Alberti)
Sweet Sensation presenta:
BOOM BOOM & THE LONG SEX (garage da Bologna)
+ THE NARCOTICS.
Prima e dopo il concerto: THE WICKED HOUR!!! garage-beat-lofi-blues-rnr-punk dj set
ingresso gratuito
Prossimi concerti @ Ulisse Barnum (clikka sulle anteprime):

JOHNNY DOES ITALY (27/11/2007)
NUMBER 71 BAND + FUNNY DUNNY (6/12/2007)
xxx
No Wave: The Cinema of Transgression in NYC
"Sono nichilista, antagonista, violenta e orribile, ma non ancora obliterata." Lydia Lunch (http://www.lydia-lunch.org/)
Se i filmati sembrano scattosi aprili in una nuova finestra (clicca su una parte qualsiasi della finestra video invece che sul pulsante play)
film di Nick Zedd:
Thrust In Me di Nick Zedd e Richard Kern
No Plague Like Home di Nick Zedd
http://video.google.it/videoplay?docid=4240569755740655998 - No plague like home on google video
http://video.google.it/videoplay?docid=-3319705516256455594 - Electra Elf & Fluffer promo on google video
Electra Elf: Old Man and The Sea Monkey di Nick Zedd
parte 1 di 3
parte 2 di 3
parte 3 di 3
Electra Elf: Triumph of the Ill di Nick Zedd
Neon Music "Filthy Rich" video di Nick Zedd
film di Richard Kern:
You Killed Me First di Richard Kern (re-edit)
Stray Dogs di Richard Kern
Sonic Youth with Lydia Lunch "Death Valley 69" video di Richard Kern
Scooter and Jinx in: Money love di Richard Kern (Sonic Youth videoclip - Goo VHS)
Pierce di Richard Kern
http://dailymotion.alice.it/video/x1gqb9_richard-kern-1990-pierce_extreme
senza titolo di Richard Kern
Llik Your Idols di Angelique Bosio (film intro)
Lydia Lunch in video:
Teenage Jesus And The Jerks live
Conspiracy Of Women (live excerpt 1989)
Simpaty For The Devil Lydia Lunch e Clint Ruin
21 Novembre: No Music Day. 22 novembre: Santa Cecilia
Ieri notte stavo leggendo alcune pagine del numero di The Wire (http://www.thewire.co.uk/) di questo novembre e sono venuto a conoscenza del No Music Day che si celebra il 21 novembre dal 2005 ed e' parte di un piano quinquennale. Mi sembra di capire dai messaggi lasciati sul sito http://www.nomusicday.com/ che la maggior parte della gente non ha aderito all'iniziativa, per vari motivi che sono riportati nei commenti dei vari visitatori (vedi sotto: statements for 2007); io non ero a conoscenza del No Music Day (e sono andato al Festival Dei Popoli a vedere due film della sezione filmare la musica fra l'altro molto interessanti: The cycles of the mental machine e Llik your idols; inoltre, come di consueto, ho ascoltato vari LP e composto delle musiche con il pc), ma l'iniziativa sembra interessante se non altro perche' ti da la possibilita' di esprimere un parere con un messaggio fruibile da tutti gli utenti del sito. Oggi 22 novembre si festeggia Santa Cecilia, patrona della musica.
Hail! Hail! Rock'n'Roll
THX
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I am (or am not) observing No Music Day because: I acknowledge the need to silence the infernal music continually circling my mind
I will (or will not) be observing No Music Day by: spending the day much as usual - I have a kind of music autism so I have to remind myself to listen to it at the best of times - a no visual stimulation day would be far more of a challenge for me
Leah Gordon
21/11/2007
I am (or am not) observing No Music Day because: i have become repulsed by music. it no longer interests me. no longer excites me.
I will (or will not) be observing No Music Day by: making no effort to hear music and thinking about how i can find a way to appreciate music somehow
Survey of Society
21/11/2007
I am (or am not) observing No Music Day because: I love music.
I will (or will not) be observing No Music Day by: hearing only the aching silence that lurks beneath the cruddy radio 2 MOR with which I am plagued by my work colleagues. Maybe the cold breath of an M62 east wind will whistle, and drown out all that mogadon pop.
Mark the Spark
21/11/2007
I am (or am not) observing No Music Day because: have you ever driven a long distance exhausting your cd collection, and come to a point were you turn the radio off and reval in the complete silence?
I will (or will not) be observing No Music Day by: Listening to the natural sounds of everyday life, a baby lauphing, a bird singing, rain
Al Leyva
21/11/2007
I am (or am not) observing No Music Day because: unless you lock yourself away in a padded cell or live on a desert island,it is virtually impossible.
Deppo
21/11/2007
I am (or am not) observing No Music Day because: resistance is funky.
I will (or will not) be observing No Music Day by: actively resisting the impulse to listen to the music i cannot help hearing in my daily activities.
stEvil
21/11/2007
I am (or am not) observing No Music Day because: Music in its common mode as ubiquitous background sound loses its potency, its ability to delight. By shutting it down for a day, it can return with some restored luster.
I will (or will not) be observing No Music Day by: I heard about NO MUSIC DAY on an NPR interview today, Nov 20, and decided on the spot to observe it as best I can. The interviewer missed the point when she asked 'should I wish you happy NO MUSIC DAY?' No, you should not. You should say 'happy St Cecilia day', and recognize the no music fast as a way to purify oneself for the return of music.
Landen Bain
21/11/2007
da http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santa_Cecilia
Patrona della musica [modifica]
È quanto mai incerto il motivo per cui Cecilia sarebbe diventata patrona della musica. In realtà, un esplicito collegamento tra Cecilia e la musica è documentato soltanto a partire dal tardo Medioevo. La spiegazione più plausibile sembra quella di una errata interpretazione dell'antifona di introito della messa nella festa della santa (e non di un brano della Passio come talvolta si afferma). Il testo di tale canto in latino sarebbe: "Cantantibus organis, Cecilia virgo in corde suo soli Domino decantabat dicens: fiat Domine cor meum et corpus meum inmaculatum ut non confundar" ("Mentre suonavano gli strumenti musicali (?), la vergine Cecilia cantava nel suo cuore soltanto per il Signore, dicendo: Signore, il mio cuore e il mio corpo siano immacolati affinché io non sia confusa"). Per dare un senso al testo, tradizionalmente lo si riferiva al banchetto di nozze di Cecilia: mentre gli strumenti musicali (profani) suonavano, Cecilia cantava a Dio interiormente. Da qui il passo ad una interpretazione ancora più travisata era facile: Cecilia cantava a Dio... con l'accompagnamento dell'organo! Si cominciò così, a partire dal XV secolo (nell'ambito del Gotico cortese) a raffigurare la santa con un piccolo organo portativo a fianco.
In realtà i codici più antichi non riportano questa lezione dell'antifona (e neanche quella che inizierebbe con Canentibus, sinonimo di Cantantibus), bensì Candentibus organis, Caecilia virgo.... Gli "organi", quindi, non sarebbero affatto strumenti musicali, ma gli strumenti di tortura, e l'antifona descriverebbe Cecilia che "tra gli strumenti di tortura incandescenti, cantava a Dio nel suo cuore". L'antifona non si riferirebbe dunque al banchetto di nozze, bensì al momento del martirio.
Dedicato alla santa, nel XIX secolo sorse il cosiddetto Movimento Ceciliano, diffuso in Italia, Francia e Germania. Vi aderirono musicisti, liturgisti e altri studiosi, che intendevano restituire dignità alla musica liturgica sottraendola all’influsso del melodramma e della musica popolare. Sotto il nome di Santa Cecilia sorsero così scuole, associazioni e periodici.
Cecilia, in quanto patrona della musica e musicista lei stessa ha ispirato più di un capovolavoro artistico, tra cui l'Estasi di Santa Cecilia di Raffaello, oggi a Bologna (una copia della quale, realizzata da Guido Reni, si trova nella chiesa di San Luigi dei Francesi a Roma. Ricordiamo anche la Santa Cecilia di Rubens (a Berlino), del Domenichino (a Parigi), di Artemisia Gentileschi.
In letteratura, Cecilia è stata celebrata specialmente nei Racconti di Canterbury di Geoffrey Chaucer, in un'ode di John Dryden poi messa in musica da Haendel nel 1736, e più tardi da Hubert Parry (1889). Altre opere musicali dedicate a Cecilia includono l'Inno a santa Cecilia di Benjamin Britten, un Inno per santa Cecilia di Herbert Howells, una messa di Alessandro Scarlatti, la Messe Solennelle de Sainte Cécile di Charles Gounod e Hail, bright Cecilia! di Henry Purcell.
Diabolus in musica

copertina di Black Sabbath, Vertigo,
cat: VO 6, 13 Febbraio 1970
da Wikipedia http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tritono
Tritono
Nella teoria musicale il tritono è l'intervallo di quinta diminuita (o anche quarta aumentata o quarta eccedente): tra una nota e l'altra c'è una distanza di tre toni. Il tritono è anche la metà esatta di una ottava. Questo intervallo è una delle maggiori dissonanze della scala diatonica, e durante il medioevo era chiamato diabolus in musica. Il suono del tritono tende fortemente verso la risoluzione di una progressione.
Sostituzione di tritono
Nella musica jazz la sostituzione di tritono consiste nel sostituire, normalmente nell' ambito di una progressione ii-V-I, un accordo di settima di dominante (che può anche comparire con la quinta e/o la nona alterate) con un altro accordo di settima avente la tonica distante tre toni dalla tonica dell'accordo precedente.
Per esempio in Do maggiore l'accordo di dominante è il Sol7, che può essere sostituito dal suo tritono Re\flat7.
Le ragioni alla base di questa sostituzione sono diverse:
* La principale sta nell'osservare che i due accordi hanno la stessa terza e settima, ma in ordine inverso (nell'esempio Sol-Si-Re-Fa e Re\flat-Fa-La\flat-Si) e il terzo e il settimo grado di un accordo sono considerati molto caratterizzanti.
* La fondamentale e la quinta nell'accordo sostituito (nell'esempio, Sol e Re) sono rispettivamente la quarta aumentata e la 9b dell'accordo di rimpiazzo, e la stessa relazione , vale per la fondamentale e la quinta di quest'ultimo rispetto al precedente.
* Se uno dei due accordi è alterato (con quinta e nona aumentate o con quinta aumentata e nona bemolle) si può usare - melodicamente - la stessa scala (lidia aumentata) su entrambi gli accordi, ad esempio:
Scala Lidia Aumentata Sol7alt.(+5+9) Reb7
Si 3 b7
Do# +4 (b5) tonica
Re# +5 9
Mi#(Fa) b7 3
Fa##(Sol) tonica +4 (b5)
Sol# b9 5
La# 9 6 (13)
* La sostituzione nella cellula II-V-I permette al basso di eseguire la progressione Re-Re\flat-Do ad intervalli discendenti di un semitono, che è molto comune.
Questa sostituzione è diventata così frequente nel jazz moderno che viene spesso effettuata anche su accordi di dominante che non compaiono nel contesto di una progressione ii-V-I.
da Fortean Times http://www.forteantimes.com/features/articles/94/the_devils_chord.html
The Devil's Chord
Exploring the history of the tritone
By Brian Allan
July 2006
The tritone or 'Devil's Chord' – a musical interval, such as the augmented fourth, spanning three whole tones – has a long musical history of links to diabolism, from the Church's wholesale banning of it in the Middle Ages, through the Romantic era, blues and jazz, to modern film music and death metal.
Before the proscription of the interval it was, according to Professor John Deathridge, King Edward Professor of Music at King’s College London, often used to represent the presence of evil: "In mediæval theology, you have to have some way of presenting the devil. Or if someone in the Roman Catholic Church wanted to portray the crucifixion, it is sometimes used there." Later, though, it came to be seen as a dissonance, and was outlawed, says Deathridge, on technical grounds in which, perhaps, a theological ban can also be read.
Romantic portrayals of evil – particularly in the works of Wagner – brought the tritone's tension-inducing power to the musical fore, and modern musicians – from film composer Bernard Hermann to seminal 'metal' act Black Sabbath – have drawn on these associations to add a spooky atmosphere to their own work. Sabbath's guitarist Tony Iommi denies making conscious use of the 'Devil’s Interval', claiming that he was just looking for "something that sounded right… something that sounded really evil and very doomy."
The genre's love affair with the tritone is examined in a new film about the history of heavy metal, A Headbanger’s Journey (see http://www.metalhistory.com). BBC News, 28 Apr 2006
Liszt – Dante Sonata
Wagner – Gotterdammerung
Sibelius – Fourth Symphony
Britten – War Requiem
Leonard Bernstein – West Side Story
Bernard Hermann – The Day the Earth Stood Still
Jimi Hendrix – Purple Haze
Black Sabbath – Black Sabbath
King Crimson – Larks’ Tongues in Aspic
Rush – YYZ
Metallica – For Whom the Bell Tolls
Danny Elfman – The Simpsons Theme
Gente a 8 bit

immage da http://nakinub.noblogs.org/category/rumori
Bit Shifter (8bitpeoples.com) live alla Fortezza Da Basso, Firenze
ho trovato questo video sul sito http://www.8-b.it
http://8bitpeoples.com/
http://otro.free.fr/
http://www.lcp.c64.org
http://www.8-b.it
http://www.chip-on.com/
http://snesmusic.org/
http://www.2a03.org/
http://www.homemadeavantgarde.it/
http://bologna_hq.micromusic.net/
http://www.teamtendo.com/
http://www.vorc.org/en/
http://www.receptorsmusic.com/
http://www.martialfunk.com/
http://micromusic.net/
http://www.rhinoplex.org/8cylinder/
http://www.herbertweixelbaum.com/
http://www.nanoloop.com/
roms per gameboy (album 8bit music roms di questo blog):
Nullsleep LSDJ Workshop:
http://www.nullsleep.com/treasure/lsdj_tutorial/
Nullsleep SARS Kung Fu rom - NES game hack:
Don't do what you see DJs doing!!
L.O.S.D. "Organic 23"; disco in vinile 5 pollici e copertina
Questo post e' dedicato ai pionieri dell'hip hop del turntablism e dello scratch: Kool DJ Herc, Afrika Bambaataa, Grandwizzard Theodore, Grandmaster Flash, Grandmixer DST (AKA DXT), Charlie Chase, Red Alert, Scott La Rock (RIP), Jam Master Jay (RIP), Eric B, Terminator X, Steve D, DJ Qbert, the X-ecutioners, DJ Craze, A-trak, Mix Master Mike.
Spulciando le pagine della rete ho trovato questo articolo che avvisa i collezionisti di vinile di NON FARE COSA FANNO I DJ con i dischi (vedi titolo dell'articolo). Mi sembrava divertente pubblicare l'articolo e dedicarlo a tutti i dj, agli skratcher, ai turntablist e a tutti quelli che cercano dspingere l'idea del giradischi come strumento musicale. In effetti è vero che la pratica dello scratch rovina inevitabilmente il supporto vinilico, ma si puo' ovviare a questo inconveniente in vari modi:
1: usare delle puntine con punta sferica o ellissoide (io uso le ortofon concorde perche' mi trovo bene, non per fare pubblicità, ma hanno un suono pulito e soppoortano bene l'usura provocata da scratch ed altre manipolazioni)
2: non caricare troppo peso sulla puntina del giradischi (3 grammi di peso bastano per non far saltare la puntina e non consumare troppo il solco; attenzione a bilanciare bene il contrappeso)
3: non essere grossolani e non avere la mano pesante quando si manipola il vinile sul giradischi, cercando di non far saltare lo stilo (puntina)
4: usare dischi appositamente creati per lo scratch e i turntablist che generalmente hanno solchi piu' profondi dei normali dischi (dipende anche dal formato e dalla velocita' di rotazione 16, 33, 45 o 78, piu' alta e' la velocita' di rotazione piu' il solco e' profondo, in teoria) il che fa si' che il suono non perda le sue caratteristiche e duri un po' di piu' anche se sottoposto alle sollecitazioni tipiche dello scratching. I suddetti vinili, chiamati battle breaks o scratch tools o piu' semplicemente tools (arnesi, attrezzi, strumenti), sono reperibili in qualsiasi negozio di dischi specializzato per i DJ oppure via internet, e ne esistono a centinaia anche sul mercato italiano
5: procurarsi piu' copie di un vinile che usate spesso in modo da avere una copia di riserva se il suono perde le sue caratteristiche e la sua dinamica originale (gia' dopo pochi ascolti si ha una perdita quantificabile in kilohertz sulle alte frequenze*) o viene accidentalmente graffiato; inoltre con due copie identiche si possono fare cose che sono impossibili con una sola (per esempio il break beat, ovvero creare un beat prolungando indefinitamente un break di batteria).
* da wikipedia: "La RIAA ha quantificato la riduzione alle alte frequenze in base al numero di ascolti e sarebbero udibili: fino a 20 kHz dopo un ascolto, 18 kHz dopo tre ascolti, 17 kHz dopo cinque ascolti, 16 kHz dopo otto, 14 kHz dopo quindici, 13 kHz dopo venticinque, 10 kHz dopo trentacinque, 8 khz dopo ottanta ascolti. Il degrado può aumentare, se si ascolta il vinile ripetutamente in rapida successione. L'enorme pressione dello stilo sulle pareti del solco, equivalente a circa una tonnellata per centimetro quadro per ogno grammo di peso in una scala microscopica, causa una deformazione delle pareti del solco generata dal calore e la conseguente distorsione sonora."
Un ringraziamento particolare a DJ Craze per le preziose informazioni contenute nel suo mix & scratch workshop per la BBC che potete trovare qui: http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/onemusic/djing/scratchp01.shtml
THX
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english text:
This post is dedicated to the pioneers of hip hop music of turntablism
and scratch: Kool DJ Herc, Afrika Bambaataa, Grandwizzard Theodore,
Grandmaster Flash, Grandmixer DST (AKA DXT), Charlie Chase, Red Alert,
Scott La Rock (RIP) Jam Master Jay (RIP), Eric B, Terminator X, Steve
D, DJ Qbert, the X-ecutioners, DJ Craze, A-trak, Mix Master Mike.
Reading the web pages, I found this article that warns
vinyl collectors to DON'T DO WHAT YOU SEE DJS DOING with records (see title of the
article). I publish it beacause it seemed fun at the fact that I do dj sets for over
11 years and in fact it must be said that the practice of scratching
inevitably ruins vinyl supports , but you can avoid this problem in
various ways:
1: use a needle with spherical or ellipsoid stylos tip (I use ortofon concorde because is good for me, but there's also anternatives to it, i believe)
2: do not load too much weight on the turntable arm (3 grams of weight
enough to prevent needle skipping and not consume the groove too much; be careful
balancing the arm counterweight)
3: do not be coarse and do not be heavy-handed when handling the record on the turntable, trying not to skip the needle while scratching
4: use records specially created for scratching and turntablists who generally have deeper grooves than normal records (also depends on the size and speed of rotation 16, 33, 45 or 78, the highest is the speed of rotation the most the groove is deep, in theory), which means that the sound does not lose its dynamics even when subjected to the typical stresses of the scratching techniques. These records, called battle breaks or scratch tools or more simply tools, are available in any record store designed for DJs or via the Internet, and there are hundreds in stores
5:
obtain more copies of a record you use often in order to have a backup
copy if the sound loses its features and its dynamic original (already
after a few listenings there is a quantifiable loss in high
frequencies kilohertz*) or if it's accidentally scratched; also with two
identical copies you can do things that are impossible with one (for
example, break beat, to make a beat or create a break indefinitely prolonging drums breaks).
* from Wikipedia: "The RIAA has quantified the
reduction of high frequencies based on the number of hearings and would
be audible up to 20 kHz after a hearing, 18 kHz after three hearings,
17 kHz audience after five, 16 kHz after eight, 14 after fifteen kHz,
13 kHz after a twenty-five, 10 kHz after thirty-five, 8 kHz after eighty hearings. degradation may increase if you listen to the vinyl
repeatedly in rapid succession. enormous pressure of the stylus on the
walls of the groove, equivalent to about a ton per cm square for each gram weight in a microscopic scale, causes a deformation of the
walls of the wake created by the heat and the resulting distortion
of sound."
Special thanks to DJ Craze for the valuable
information contained in his mix & scratch workshops for the BBC
which can be found here:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/onemusic/djing/scratchp01.shtml
THX
da http://vinylfanatics.com/content/view/41/38/
Record Care
Written by Administrator
Thursday, 31 August 2006
Forum discussion
Hardware related
1- clean your LPs preferrably using a record cleaning machine or at least
manually with a good brush and cleaning solution.
2- clean your LPs prior to their first play to remove mold release
compound. Use a special deep cleaner that removes mold release compound.
This will help prevent pops and clicks.
3- use a good support system for your turntable. Some suggestions are a
wall-mounted shelf, a good rack, and/or a rack with a specialty platform
such as a Neuance platform.
4- Use a better inner sleeve than those usually provided.
Nagaoka and Mobile Fidelity sleeves are reccommended.
Many people also prefer plain white rice paper sleeves.
5- Store your records tidily and vertically.
Partitions about a foot square are good.
6- Use a good turntable and cartridge/needle. Worn needles, or where there
is too much or too little weight resting on the record can all damage it. A regular
service of your TT is not a bad idea also, both for protecting them and for
getting the best sound quality out of them.
7- Don't leave finger prints on your records.
They leave greasy smudges and attract dust. Try and use the edges and the labels to hold
your records. Don't do what you see DJs doing!!
Thanks to Terry P for some of these tips.
Last Updated ( Wednesday, 18 October 2006 )
Storia dell'Amen Break
da http://nkhstudio.com/pages/popup_amen.html
Can I Get An Amen? is an audio installation that unfolds a critical perspective of perhaps the most sampled drum beat in the history of recorded music, the Amen Break. It begins with the pop track Amen Brother by 60's soul band The Winstons, and traces the transformation of their drum solo from its original context as part of a 'B' side vinyl single into its use as a key aural ingredient in contemporary cultural expression. The work attempts to bring into scrutiny the techno-utopian notion that 'information wants to be free'- it questions its effectiveness as a democratizing agent. This as well as other issues are foregrounded through a history of the Amen Break and its peculiar relationship to current copyright law.
"History of the Amen Break" video (http://www.jahsonic.com/Breaks.html)
link:
storia del disco fonografico di vinile
wikipedia (italiano) - http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disco_in_vinile
wikipedia (english) - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vinyl_record
bbc - http://www.bbc.co.uk/music/features/vinyl/
web ticino - http://web.ticino.com/pagna/Pagine/Documentazioni/Supporti%20audio%20e%20video/Disco%20in%20vinile.htm
the vinyl institute - http://www.vinylinfo.org/materialvinyl/history.html
vinyl by design - http://vinylbydesign.com/site/page_two_col.asp?CID=2&DID=3
history of vinyl feature contents - http://vinylbydesign.com/site/page_two_col.asp?CID=2&DID=3
polyone corp. - http://www.polyone.com/ind/hist/
the history of sound recording - http://www.thelaughingpapillon.com/hist_ix.php
cura del disco fonografico di vinile
guida dischi in vinile - http://www.guida-acquisti.com/musica/dischi-vinile.php
simply vinyl - http://www.simplyvinyl.com/vinylcare.asp
hydrogen audio - http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?act=ST&f=21&t=9050
vinylcare.co.uk - http://www.vinylcare.co.uk/
laventure.net - http://www.laventure.net/tourist/good_sound5.htm
fine living - http://www.fineliving.com/fine/favorite_things_essentials/article/0,1663,FINE_1426_1311974,00.html
storia del turntablism
wc blog - http://writers-connection.noblogs.org/gallery/676/disco_concet.txt
jahsonic - http://www.jahsonic.com/Scratching.html
hip hop network - http://www.hiphop-network.com/articles/djarticles/scratchdjhistory.asp
digital scratch - http://www.digitalscratch.com/ds/features.html
wikipedia (english) - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turntablism
pedestrian - http://www.pedestrian.info/PedestrianHistoryofTurntablism.pdf

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Secondo anniversario di okkupazione dell'Asilo
Festa dalle 18.00
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JG Ballard interview by V. Vale (2004)
da http://www.rickmcgrath.com/jgballard/jgb_beatsthebush.html
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JGB Beats Around The Bush...
And Finds Hollywood
JGB Interview by V. Vale
From his home in Shepperton following the November 2, 2004, US Presidential elections, J.G. Ballard wonders over the phone with V. Vale if there is something fundamentally flawed about the American take on reality.
V. Vale: I wanted to get your “take” on the neo-cons and Bush, and your perspective on what happened with this election in November, 2004.
J.G. Ballard: I’m sure you and your readers have had an absolute Niagara of comment on the subject, so I don’t want to give anything but one European’s perspective on it. But there’s no doubt that most people over here on this side of the Atlantic were hoping for a Kerry victory. There’s something very frightening about Bush and the neo-con group. Donald Rumsfeld is quite a scary figure — putting it mildly.
V. Vale: One feels that Bush and his closest advisors are entirely driven by emotions. They’re no longer driven by a reasoned analysis of where the world is going, and what the U.S. response should be. They’re driven by this visceral need to express their anger — you know, their anger and, really, rage at the world. One feels, listening to people like Rumsfeld, Bush himself, and one or two of the others like Richard Perle, that the world is seen as an extremely hostile place.
J.G. Ballard: And moreover, they want it to be a hostile place. They need enemies who can be challenged and then destroyed. This is a kind of psychology that people in Europe are very familiar with, going back to the psychology of people like Hitler and his henchman, and then to Stalin and the whole paranoid stance that both the Nazi and the Soviet regimes had towards their enemies. If they didn’t have enemies, they would soon invent enemies. Because they’re absolutely hung up — and I suspect Bush and the neo-cons, to a surprising extent, in a great democracy like the U.S., are hung up on this need to hate and this need to destroy. And of course it’s frightening, because where will it end? Today Iraq, tomorrow Iran, and the day after, hmmm... maybe France, you know, because given their mindset, there will be no shortage of enemies. I think there’s nothing particularly extreme about saying this. I think it’s what people over here perceive of as part of the dangers of this situation. Nobody thinks there is a connection between the 9-11 attack and Saddam Hussein. There’s no connection at all — it’s quite the opposite. Hussein was running a secular regime. Bush and Rumsfeld have created a kind of unstable regime dominated by religious fanatics in Iraq, of the Khadafi kind they thought they were getting rid of! So it is unnerving. It leads us to question many other areas of the American world view. Is there something fundamentally flawed about the American take on reality? I say that as a lifelong admirer of the U.S., by the way. But it does seem to me that a lot of the formulas that govern American life — in particular its entertainment culture — have leaked out of, say, the Hollywood films and into political reality. That’s frightening. I’ve got a feeling that Americans, who have always been admired and always been liked for the most part, don’t take kindly to being disliked. Unlike, say, the British and French, who have been disliked since the year “dot.” The Americans don’t like being disliked; the reverberations of 9-11 are not going to go away. I’m sure there will be other attacks of a similar kind and they will keep the pot boiling.
V. Vale: Yes. And these days, the Bush Team seems to basically dictate press announcements to the press as “news,” and then the news media just gladly print them without any critical stance or analysis. Recently in the news there was the declaration: “Well, we think Iran has weapons of mass destruction.” Obviously Team Bush is gearing up for an attack on Iran.
J.G. Ballard: Well, it does look like that. What’s worrying is that that will be an automatic response: “So, it’s going to be Iran next.” I can’t imagine American ground forces are going to roll across the border, but I can see strategic bombing attacks designed to destabilize the present regime and knock out their nuclear research installations. But, the consequences would be disastrous for the world economy if the huge oil supplies locked up in the Middle East were interrupted. God knows what will happen.
V. Vale: We saw a preview of that in Mad Max, didn’t we?
J.G. Ballard: Yes, absolutely. It’s a worrying time because Bush seems to delight in the sort of mythological version of himself which he’s created: the swaggering Texan who is supremely confident of his ability to stare down any mean guys who get in his way. Rumsfeld seems to come out of the same corner of the fairground. Some of the others, like Perle, whom we see a lot of on British television, and Wolfowitz whom we also see, are much more intellectual and they provide a smooth rationale. Something worries me. This goes back to the period of forty years ago when strategic planners in the Pentagon were heavily influenced by game theory, John Von Neumann and others. They seriously believed there was a window of opportunity that the U.S. should take while it still enjoyed nuclear supremacy. This was the time to strike, before the Soviet missile deployment would match the U.S.’s. From what one reads, serious thought was given to picking a fight with the Russians and then obliterating them! One sees something of the same mind-set at work today, and it’s a little bit scary.
V. Vale: [laughs] To say the least. Wow. I’m very cautious of conspiracy theories because you can drive yourself crazy — you will never really know who killed JFK, for example. But at the same time I’m very interested in the underlying thinking that doesn’t get publicized, like the game theory of John Von Neumann, who was the model for the title character in Dr. Strangelove. You don’t hear much about that anymore, but that doesn’t mean it didn’t go away.
J.G. Ballard: I think it’s come to the surface again, hasn’t it? It’s something I’ve argued for a long while. In my last novel, Millennium People, I was putting forth the proposition that nothing disconcerts people more than an apparently meaningless act. If a hostile act in particular has some sort of obvious point... if you’re an anti-globalization protestor and you picket the offices of some multinational company, or even if you blow up their showroom windows, everybody understands — they may disapprove, but they understand. But on the other hand, a meaningless act really unsettles people for obvious reasons, because we look for logic. To some extent, the tragic events of 9-11 constitute a kind of meaningless act.
V. Vale: What do you mean?
J.G. Ballard: I haven’t seen any convincing explanation of what Mohammed Atta and his fellow hijackers were trying to achieve. I mean, this is a spectacular blow against what we’re told is — was — an American symbol: the twin World Trade Center towers...
V. Vale: The WTC was a spectacular symbol of American economic dominance over the world, I think.
J.G. Ballard: I don’t think they were seen as such by the rest of the world. They were seen as two very tall buildings. I’ve never heard anyone refer to them. Now, the Empire State Building, and to some extent the Chrysler Building, had enormous symbolic value, which I remember back in the 1930s, soon after the Empire State Building opened for business. That stood for New York, and it stood for America. But I’ve never heard of the World Trade Center thought of in those terms. I’ve never heard anyone in any television program, documentary, article or book refer to the World Trade Center towers in the way, for example, that people always refer to the Pentagon as a threatening presence.
V. Vale: I think the WTC towers were elevated into this position of representing American capitalism after the event.
J.G. Ballard: Well, whether they were or not, the point is: the attack on them was really meaningless — it didn’t achieve anything, apart from killing a huge number of people. It was almost a meaningless act; the logic was difficult to follow. If you hated the U.S. so much, there were other and better targets, in a way: the Capitol in Washington, the White House, the Pentagon itself — one plane obviously wasn’t going to do enough damage; all four planes could have gone into the Pentagon. The symbolic value of an attack, say, on the White House or the Capitol would have been far, far greater. By comparison, the attack on the World Trade Center in New York was really... It almost comes into the category of a meaningless act... and it’s this that people find so unsettling. I think that when you’re faced with a meaningless act of that kind, the brain rushes around trying to find some sort of conceivable reason at work in the perpetrators’ mind. Although no one is prepared to come out and sort of back Samuel Huntington’s notion of “The Clash of Civilizations” — you know, the Christian West vs. Islam — people act as if the war against the Muslim world were already declared.
V. Vale: In fact, Bush constantly talks about war, doesn’t he? He refers to himself as the “War President.”
J.G. Ballard: Whereas in terms of the huge enormous unlimited power of the U.S. military, I would regard the invasion of Iraq as a police action. I mean, it’s degenerated into a kind of huge police action now — it’s a “law and order” problem. The reactive mechanism in Bush’s mind, and in the minds of the neo-cons around him, has been touched off. And also of course, the other thing that sort of worries us in Europe, is the way in which religious belief has begun to merge seamlessly into this sort of war mentality. That is something that is very scary, because it justifies anything. If “God” is on your side and you’re absolutely convinced of that, then you can do anything.
V. Vale: And justify anything you did.
J.G. Ballard: Absolutely. Going back to the Crusades and religious pogroms in Europe, the Dark Ages, the Inquisition in the 14th-15th century (or whenever), the religious wars... One doesn’t want to get too carried away, but there are unsettling echoes — put it like that. I think back to earlier American Presidents when I was younger — say, Roosevelt, Truman, Eisenhower... one can’t imagine them ever having gotten into this war in Iraq. Or into this peculiar mind-set, this sort of “Religious Warrior” mind-set. They weren’t riding an emotional horse... The puzzling thing is: Why has this happened? Is there something within the American view of the world, the way that Americans think, that is responsible? In other words, has the genie escaped from the Hollywood bottle ... and got out into the ordinary air we breathe? One can’t help wondering that. The logic that underpins Independence Day and Con-Air and all these films seems to be directing America today. I’m probably wrong, but that’s the impression that people have over here.
V. Vale: Definitely. Those popular films perpetuate, or inflict, a mythology, upon Americans ... there are all these assumptions underlying those films.
J.G. Ballard: Yes, it underpins those films, and it underpins the American comics that I read in the 1940s. I remember reading Superman comics in 1937, 1938 in Shanghai, and the hero could transform himself — which Bush thinks he can do: he goes into the War Room in the Pentagon and he comes out a cross between Richard the Lion-Hearted and god knows who else. There is the idea that if what you’re doing is “right,” and “God” tells you so, you have unlimited power. That’s a very powerful combination, actually, if you happen to be President of the U. S., but it’s frightening for the rest of the world. I mean, I can imagine a world where everyone is so frightened of the U.S. that we all convince ourselves that we admire it absolutely, and will agree with everything America demands of us, but that will not satisfy the man in the White House at the time. What he needs — or it may be a she, although I would think that Hillary’s hopes are rather slender at the moment — I mean for eight years’ time, whenever. But there seems to be a need... Maybe it’s something as simple as the need for revenge — it’s hard to say. But I think it’s more than that; I think it’s the need to turn the rest of the world into a free-fire zone where anybody who puts his head up out of the nearest ditch is going to get it shot off. That way they’re “safe.” But, it may be a passing phase…
This interview was first published in Arthur Magazine, February 15, 2005, and was excerpted from the book, J.G. Ballard: Conversations. This book, and a companion volume, J.G. Ballard: Quotations, is now available from www.researchpubs.com
Collage by JGB
james ballard album
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Nuove proposte musicali: The Infradyto's
Cactus Music, Desert Sound, West and Soda. Cosi' Frankie Bertieri (electric guitar and vocals) e Matteo Giannetti (doublebass), A.K.A. The Infradyto's, amano descrivere la loro musica. Mercoledi' scorso dovevano suonare dal vivo al Rex Bar in via Fiesolana a Firenze, ma causa problemi tecnici non gli e' stato possibile esibirsi: il dj che ha suonato la sera prima nel locale ha fuso l'impianto e percio' e' stato impossibile ripararlo in tempo per il concerto del giorno dopo. Frankie e' considerato uno dei migliori chitarristi della scena fiorentina, ex membro di Neon e I Refuse It (storiche formazioni underground anni Ottanta) e Matteo e' un eccellente contrabassista, suona attualmente con "The Di Maggio Connection" ma in passato ha suonato anche con "Rocky Roberts". Spero di rivederli presto in azione. In bocca al lupo!
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Reliquie dell'era spaziale
Involucro protettivo del disco d'oro della NASA
"The spacecraft will be encountered and the record played only if there are advanced spacefaring civilizations in interstellar space. But the launching of this bottle into the cosmic ocean says something very hopeful about life on this planet." Carl Sagan
Nel 1977 furono lanciate dall'agenzia americana per la ricerca spaziale (NASA) le sonde spaziali Voyager 1 e Voyager 2. Le sonde contenevano dei dischi fonografici 12 pollici di rame placcato oro (vedi immagine qui sotto) con sopra incisi vari suoni e immagini selezionati nell'intento di ritrarre le diversita' della vita e delle culture del nostro pianeta. Inoltre il professor Sagan (curatore del progetto) e i suoi collaboratori incluserouna collezione di 115 foto codificate in forma analogica e una varieta' di suoni della natura (vento, fuoco, onde del mare, animali, eccetera). A questi aggiunsero una selezione musicale tratta da varie epoche e culture, registrazioni di saluti in varie lingue e un messaggio scritto del Presidente Carter e del segretario delle Nazioni Unite Generale Waldheim. I dischi erano contenuti in una cpoerta di alluminio contenetne anche una testina e uno stilo per fonografo. Istruzioni, in linguaggio grafico, spiegavano l'origine della sonda e come suonare i dischi in essa contenuti (3,6 giri al secondo).
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Disco d'oro Voyager (audio file wav da The sounds of Earth http://re-lab.net/welcome/sounds2.html):
Voyager Golden Record
Da Wikipedia, l'enciclopedia libera.
il Voyager Golden Record.
Riproduzione del Voyager Golden Record.
Il Voyager Golden Record è un disco per grammofono inserito nelle prime due navicelle del Programma Voyager, lanciato nel 1977, contenente suoni e immagini selezionate al fine di portare le diverse varietà di vita e cultura della Terra. È concepito per qualunque forma di vita extraterrestre o per la razza umana del futuro che lo possa trovare. La navetta Voyager impiegherà 40.000 anni per arrivare nelle vicinanze di un'altra stella.
Le probabilità che venga trovato da qualcuno sono estremamente remote in rapporto alla vastità dello spazio intergalattico. Un suo possibile ritrovamento ad opera di una forma di vita aliena potrà avvenire soltanto in un futuro molto lontano. Il suo lancio è infatti visto più che altro come qualcosa di simbolico che non un tentativo reale di comunicare con forme di vita extraterrestri.
I precedenti tentativi [modifica]
Attualmente, nel 2006, la navicella Voyager è soltanto il terzo artefatto prodotto dall'umanità ad uscire dal Sistema solare. Appartenenti al Programma Pioneer le navicelle 10 e 11, lanciate rispettivamente nel 1972 e nel 1973, posseggono placche metalliche che identificano il loro tempo e il loro luogo d'origine, per beneficiare altri viaggiatori spaziali che potranno ritrovare le placche in un lontano futuro.
Con questo tentativo invece, la NASA ha voluto inserire un messaggio omnicomprensivo a bordo di Voyager 1 e Voyager 2, una sorta di capsula temporale con l'intenzione di comunicare la storia del nostro mondo ad eventuali forme di vita extraterrestri.
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Il contenuto [modifica]
Il contenuto del disco venne selezionato per la NASA da una commissione guidata da Carl Sagan della Cornell University. Il dottor Sagan e la commissione misero insieme una varietà di 115 immagini e un gran numero di suoni naturali, come quelli prodotti dalle onde, dal vento, dai tuoni e suoni prodotti da animali, come il canto degli uccelli e quello delle balene. Con questi venne inserita una selezione musicale proveniente da diverse culture e diverse epoche, oltre ai saluti di abitanti della Terra in 55 lingue diverse e la riproduzione del messaggio del presidente degli U.S.A. Jimmy Carter e del Segretario generale delle Nazioni Unite Kurt Waldheim.
Dopo le critiche ricevute dalla NASA sull'inserimento nelle placche del programma Pioneer dell'immagine di un corpo maschile e uno femminile nudo, l'agenzia spaziale non permise a Sagan di inserire immagini di uomini e donne nude.
I saluti nelle diverse lingue iniziano con l'accadico, parlata dai Sumeri circa 6.000 anni fa e finiscono con il dialetto Wu, parlato attualmente in Cina.
Seguono le 55 lingue incluse nel Golden Record:
Segue la sezione di suoni della Terra, comprendente una sezione di circa 90 minuti di musica proveniente da differenti culture e da varie parti del mondo. La sezione include:
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Concerto brandeburghese No. 2 in F. primo Movement |
Munich Bach Orchestra diretta da Karl Richter |
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"Puspawarna" ("Tipi di fiori") |
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Corto gamelan di Pura Paku Alaman diretto da K.R.T. Wasitodipuro |
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Percussioni senegalese |
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canzone dell'iniziazione delle donne pigmee |
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"Morning Star" e "Devil Bird" |
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canzone aborigena |
1:26 |
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"El Cascabel" |
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3:14 |
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Chuck Berry |
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Canzone della casa dell'uomo |
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1:20 |
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"Tsuru No Sugomori" ("Crane's Nest") |
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4:51 |
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Germania/Belgio |
"Gavotte en rondeaux" dalla Partita No. 3 in E maggiore per violino |
Bach |
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2:55 |
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Austria/Germania |
Il flauto magico, Aria della regina della notte, no. 14 |
Edda Moser (soprano) della Bavarian State Opera, diretta da Wolfgang Sawallisch |
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2:55 |
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"Tchakrulo" |
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Coro |
2:18 |
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Casa de la Cultura, Lima |
Siringa e tamburi |
0:52 |
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USA |
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Jazz |
3:05 |
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"Ugam" |
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Radio Moscow |
2:30 |
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Le Sacre du Printemps, danza sacrificale |
Columbia Symphony Orchestra diretta da Igor Stravinsky |
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4:35 |
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Germania/Canada |
Il clavicembalo ben temperato, Book 2, Preludio e fuga in C, No.1 |
Bach |
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4:48 |
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Germania/Gran Bretagna |
5° Sinfonia, Primo movimento |
Philharmonia Orchestra diretta da Otto Klemperer |
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7:20 |
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"Излел е Делю хайдутин" ("Izlel je Delyo Hajdutin") |
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4:59 |
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USA |
Canto notturno |
Indiani Navajo |
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0:57 |
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Gran Bretagna |
"The Fairie Round" from Pavane, Gagliarda, Allemanda e altre brevi arie |
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Siringa |
1:12 |
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Perù |
Canto matrimoniale |
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0:38 |
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"Liu Shui" ("Flowing Streams") |
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"Jaat Kahan Ho" |
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3:30 |
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USA |
"Dark Was the Night, Cold Was the Ground" |
Blind Willie Johnson |
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3:15 |
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Germania/Ungheria |
Quartetto N. 13 in B flat, Opus 130 |
Beethoven |
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6:37 |
Il viaggio [modifica]
La posizione delle due sonde nel maggio 2005
La Voyager 1 è stata lanciata nel 1977, passando l'orbita di Plutone nel 1990, e lasciando il sistema solare (cioè passando il limite oltre il quale il Sole non ha più influssi) nel novembre 2004. Adesso è nello spazio vuoto. Tra circa 40.000 anni Voyager 1 e Voyager 2 dovrebbero arrivare ad essere a circa 1.7 anni luce da due diverse stelle: Voyager 1 sarà in prossimità di AC+79 3888, una stella appartenente a Ursa Minor; Voyager 2 sarà nelle vicinanze della stella Ross 248, localizzata in Andromeda.
Nel maggio 2005, Voyager 1 era a 8.7 miliardi di miglia dal Sole e viaggiava ad una velocità di 3.6 UA all'anno, mentre Voyager 2 era a circa 6.5 milioni di miglia dal sole e viaggiava a 3.3 UA all'anno.
Come Carl Sagan ha notato, "Se le navicelle spaziali saranno incontrate, potranno essere interpretate soltanto da una civiltà aliena molto evoluta. Ma il lancio di questa 'bottiglia' nell'oceano cosmico dà un senso di speranza riguardo la vita su altri pianeti".
Qualcun altro suggerisce che la sola civiltà che potrà incontrare il messaggio è la nostra, e che quando tra diverse centin








